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Guaka: :At some point I merged visawiki.org into Nomadwiki. And Visawiki itself also contained copies from another wiki. At this point Nomadwiki is ranking for some visa related keywords, and it gets some traffic. I guess the list of embassies can be removed, es

2015-08-05T10:11:11Z

:At some point I merged visawiki.org into Nomadwiki. And Visawiki itself also contained copies from another wiki. At this point Nomadwiki is ranking for some visa related keywords, and it gets some traffic. I guess the list of embassies can be removed, es

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	:: other kind of destinations could include (i´m brainstorming a little here): wildcamping beaches (for example kara dere, kupari), abandoned buildings (for example halte royal d'ardennes in belgium, or again kupari, or the abandoned city of vogelsang but excluding abandoned buildings that could be listed as part of a city that has more of interest than that one spot, for example berlin.) or former rainbow gathering sites (always good to know for a hitchgathering). [[User:Clem\|Clem]] ([[User talk:Clem\|talk]]) 22:04, 10 October 2013 (CEST)		:: other kind of destinations could include (i´m brainstorming a little here): wildcamping beaches (for example kara dere, kupari), abandoned buildings (for example halte royal d'ardennes in belgium, or again kupari, or the abandoned city of vogelsang but excluding abandoned buildings that could be listed as part of a city that has more of interest than that one spot, for example berlin.) or former rainbow gathering sites (always good to know for a hitchgathering). [[User:Clem\|Clem]] ([[User talk:Clem\|talk]]) 22:04, 10 October 2013 (CEST)

			==Is this visa related content relevant for Nomadwiki==
			By editing article ([[Israel]]), I asked myself if some of content was relavant to Nomadwiki. This included the list of the embassies, the requirements for the visas depending on the countries. It is content very hard to keep up to date and is maybe not quite in the vibe of Nomadwiki. Is it important to have a list of embassies, as it is moreover a very easy info to find? [[User:Arthuronwa\|Arthuronwa]] ([[User talk:Arthuronwa\|talk]]) 11:59, 5 August 2015 (CEST)

			:At some point I merged visawiki.org into Nomadwiki. And Visawiki itself also contained copies from another wiki. At this point Nomadwiki is ranking for some visa related keywords, and it gets some traffic. I guess the list of embassies can be removed, especially if you add a link to an up-to-date source with this information. [[User:Guaka\|Guaka]] ([[User talk:Guaka\|talk]]) 12:11, 5 August 2015 (CEST)

Guaka: :I love it, keep it coming! I always wanted there to be room for this. I added some brackets around a couple of words in your sentences that could have their own articles :) Also check Hitchwiki's [[hitch:Category:Philosophy|Philoso

2015-08-01T13:04:00Z

:I love it, keep it coming! I always wanted there to be room for this. I added some <nowiki>brackets </nowiki> around a couple of words in your sentences that could have their own articles :) Also check Hitchwiki's [[hitch:Category:Philosophy|Philoso

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Guaka: /* Cross Promotion on Nomadwiki */ :::Great job! Now also works for countries! ~~~~

2015-07-30T09:25:07Z

Cross Promotion on Nomadwiki: :::Great job! Now also works for countries! ~~~~

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	::Yes! I added that to the City form (and template) e.g. http://nomadwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Amsterdam&action=formedit (you can get there with the "Edit by form" link on city pages). You have to find the appropriate links at BW (and WS) and put them in there. Let me know if there's a problem.		::Yes! I added that to the City form (and template) e.g. http://nomadwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Amsterdam&action=formedit (you can get there with the "Edit by form" link on city pages). You have to find the appropriate links at BW (and WS) and put them in there. Let me know if there's a problem.
	::We can do the same with countries at some point. Let's first see how it works for cities. [[User:Guaka\|Guaka]] ([[User talk:Guaka\|talk]]) 12:15, 27 July 2015 (CEST)		::We can do the same with countries at some point. Let's first see how it works for cities. [[User:Guaka\|Guaka]] ([[User talk:Guaka\|talk]]) 12:15, 27 July 2015 (CEST)

			:::Great job! Now also works for countries! [[User:Guaka\|Guaka]] ([[User talk:Guaka\|talk]]) 11:25, 30 July 2015 (CEST)

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Guaka: ::Yes! I added that to the City form (and template) e.g. http://nomadwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Amsterdam&action=formedit (you can get there with the "Edit by form" link on city pages). You have to find the appropriate links at BW (and WS) and put them i

2015-07-27T10:15:43Z

::Yes! I added that to the City form (and template) e.g. http://nomadwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Amsterdam&action=formedit (you can get there with the "Edit by form" link on city pages). You have to find the appropriate links at BW (and WS) and put them i

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	::: Well, unless someone wants to write pywikibot code that handles BW geography codes...		::: Well, unless someone wants to write pywikibot code that handles BW geography codes...
	::: Hopefully WS will have something at some point.. [[User:Guaka\|Guaka]] ([[User talk:Guaka\|talk]]) 14:36, 25 July 2015 (CEST)		::: Hopefully WS will have something at some point.. [[User:Guaka\|Guaka]] ([[User talk:Guaka\|talk]]) 14:36, 25 July 2015 (CEST)

			: Is there a way I could manually add BW links? [[User:Subaculture\|Subaculture]] ([[User talk:Subaculture\|talk]]) 12:03, 27 July 2015 (CEST)

			::Yes! I added that to the City form (and template) e.g. http://nomadwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Amsterdam&action=formedit (you can get there with the "Edit by form" link on city pages). You have to find the appropriate links at BW (and WS) and put them in there. Let me know if there's a problem.
			::We can do the same with countries at some point. Let's first see how it works for cities. [[User:Guaka\|Guaka]] ([[User talk:Guaka\|talk]]) 12:15, 27 July 2015 (CEST)

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Guaka: /* Cross Promotion on Nomadwiki */

2015-07-25T12:38:18Z

Cross Promotion on Nomadwiki

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	:::: BTW related to this; just two days ago I moved nomadwiki.org domain from my personal ownership to Trustroots Foundation, which is officially non-profit, while I'm just a dude officially. ;-) As Guaka says, this is much better situation for everyone in many ways. -[[User:Mikael\|Mikael]] ([[User talk:Mikael\|talk]]) 13:28, 24 July 2015 (CEST)		:::: BTW related to this; just two days ago I moved nomadwiki.org domain from my personal ownership to Trustroots Foundation, which is officially non-profit, while I'm just a dude officially. ;-) As Guaka says, this is much better situation for everyone in many ways. -[[User:Mikael\|Mikael]] ([[User talk:Mikael\|talk]]) 13:28, 24 July 2015 (CEST)

	::: So it [https://github.com/BeWelcome/rox/issues/6#issuecomment-124838412 ain't gonna happen] automatically with BW. (Also an indirect reminder of why TR was started in the first place.) [[User:Guaka\|Guaka]] ([[User talk:Guaka\|talk]]) 14:36, 25 July 2015 (CEST)		::: So it [https://github.com/BeWelcome/rox/issues/6#issuecomment-124838412 ain't gonna happen] automatically with BW. (Also an indirect reminder of why TR was started in the first place.)
			::: Well, unless someone wants to write pywikibot code that handles BW geography codes...
			::: Hopefully WS will have something at some point.. [[User:Guaka\|Guaka]] ([[User talk:Guaka\|talk]]) 14:36, 25 July 2015 (CEST)

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Guaka: /* Cross Promotion on Nomadwiki */ ::: So it [https://github.com/BeWelcome/rox/issues/6#issuecomment-124838412 ain't gonna happen] automatically with BW. (Also an indirect reminder of why TR was started in the first place.) ~~~~

2015-07-25T12:36:41Z

Cross Promotion on Nomadwiki: ::: So it [https://github.com/BeWelcome/rox/issues/6#issuecomment-124838412 ain't gonna happen] automatically with BW. (Also an indirect reminder of why TR was started in the first place.) ~~~~

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	:::: It may not be very clear or even intended but at this point you're contributing to my personal business when you edit Nomadwiki and Trashwiki, a bit like HC and its owner, except that I'm not like the owner of HC and that NW/TR are not like HC ;) And moving the projects under the umbrella of Trustroots Foundation is clearly a huge improvement, 1. for me personally 2. for contributors 3. for readers 4. for longevity. With Hitchwiki it's not that clear, as we said it's part of a German hitching organization, but this has never been made very official, and in practice there is also not a lot of clarity about who does what. By moving HW to TR Foundation this will hopefully be better and clearer.		:::: It may not be very clear or even intended but at this point you're contributing to my personal business when you edit Nomadwiki and Trashwiki, a bit like HC and its owner, except that I'm not like the owner of HC and that NW/TR are not like HC ;) And moving the projects under the umbrella of Trustroots Foundation is clearly a huge improvement, 1. for me personally 2. for contributors 3. for readers 4. for longevity. With Hitchwiki it's not that clear, as we said it's part of a German hitching organization, but this has never been made very official, and in practice there is also not a lot of clarity about who does what. By moving HW to TR Foundation this will hopefully be better and clearer.
	:::: I also want to stipulate that A. I want to reduce bureaucracy to the minimum B. keep the respective communities in charge of what's happening with the project (in this order). [[User:Guaka\|Guaka]] ([[User talk:Guaka\|talk]]) 13:22, 24 July 2015 (CEST)		:::: I also want to stipulate that A. I want to reduce bureaucracy to the minimum B. keep the respective communities in charge of what's happening with the project (in this order). [[User:Guaka\|Guaka]] ([[User talk:Guaka\|talk]]) 13:22, 24 July 2015 (CEST)
			:::: BTW related to this; just two days ago I moved nomadwiki.org domain from my personal ownership to Trustroots Foundation, which is officially non-profit, while I'm just a dude officially. ;-) As Guaka says, this is much better situation for everyone in many ways. -[[User:Mikael\|Mikael]] ([[User talk:Mikael\|talk]]) 13:28, 24 July 2015 (CEST)

			::: So it [https://github.com/BeWelcome/rox/issues/6#issuecomment-124838412 ain't gonna happen] automatically with BW. (Also an indirect reminder of why TR was started in the first place.) [[User:Guaka\|Guaka]] ([[User talk:Guaka\|talk]]) 14:36, 25 July 2015 (CEST)

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Guaka: :::: It may not be very clear or even intended but at this point you're contributing to my personal business when you edit Nomadwiki and Trashwiki, a bit like HC and its owner, except that I'm not like the owner of HC and that NW/TR are not like HC ;) And

2015-07-24T11:22:42Z

:::: It may not be very clear or even intended but at this point you're contributing to my personal business when you edit Nomadwiki and Trashwiki, a bit like HC and its owner, except that I'm not like the owner of HC and that NW/TR are not like HC ;) And

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	I have no problem with TR, but even as a non-profit, it is no more special than other non-profit hospex sites (BW, WS). I didn't work many hours adding content to Nomadwiki to drive trafiic to one particular site. I have always sought to be neutral, and not leave my other interests impact my contributions. Whether the owners of this site are involved in TR		I have no problem with TR, but even as a non-profit, it is no more special than other non-profit hospex sites (BW, WS). I didn't work many hours adding content to Nomadwiki to drive trafiic to one particular site. I have always sought to be neutral, and not leave my other interests impact my contributions. Whether the owners of this site are involved in TR
	"should be" immaterial to me. I am a strong believer in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_wall Chinese Walls]. If the owners of the site feel very strongly about proactively pushing traffic for non-profits, they they should provide links to all three Non-profit hospex sites, or delete these hard links and leave nomads make up their own mind. [[Subaculture\|~~Michael~~]]		"should be" immaterial to me. I am a strong believer in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_wall Chinese Walls]. If the owners of the site feel very strongly about proactively pushing traffic for non-profits, they they should provide links to all three Non-profit hospex sites, or delete these hard links and leave nomads make up their own mind. [[User:Subaculture\|Subaculture]] ([[User talk:Subaculture\|talk]]) 08:19, 23 July 2015 (CEST)

	:I share the same concerns as Michael. I think it is inappropriate to have this pervasive link to trustroots - at least in my perception of Nomadwiki being a non-aligned well of info for nomads. I have no problem with Trustroots - I have a profile there - but my contributions here were made on the basis of it being a non-commercial/non-partisan information site. [[Luna\|Kev]]		:I share the same concerns as Michael. I think it is inappropriate to have this pervasive link to trustroots - at least in my perception of Nomadwiki being a non-aligned well of info for nomads. I have no problem with Trustroots - I have a profile there - but my contributions here were made on the basis of it being a non-commercial/non-partisan information site. [[Luna\|Kev]]

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	:::I think deeplinking to a location is particularly, I don't think a linking to BW/WS front pages as a fallback is very useful.		:::I think deeplinking to a location is particularly, I don't think a linking to BW/WS front pages as a fallback is very useful.
	:::Happy Subaculture sent me an email about this BTW. And it's good it's discussed and I'm sure we can work something out, possibly even improve WS and BW in the process :) [[User:Guaka\|Guaka]] ([[User talk:Guaka\|talk]]) 02:11, 22 July 2015 (CEST)		:::Happy Subaculture sent me an email about this BTW. And it's good it's discussed and I'm sure we can work something out, possibly even improve WS and BW in the process :) [[User:Guaka\|Guaka]] ([[User talk:Guaka\|talk]]) 02:11, 22 July 2015 (CEST)
			::::Yep, I'd gladly add links to other projects as well but as said, there isn't a way doing so easily. We had the same issue at Hitchwiki at some point. BTW, these four projects (Nomadwiki/Hitchwiki/Trashwiki/Trustroots) are by no means isolate and separate projects — expect to see more different type connections between all of these, especially between wikis. E.g. seeing map content from Hitchwiki at Trustroots or ability to link your accounts. Also I have to say that we're helping BW and WS where we can and totally support them, they're great. :-) Thanks Subaculture for heads up! -[[User:Mikael\|Mikael]] ([[User talk:Mikael\|talk]]) 12:31, 23 July 2015 (CEST)

			::: Thanks for the feedback/comments/discussion. Glad to see other projects included as a first stage. Step in right direction to hold non-profit hospex community together despite belonging to different hospex. Still, not sure how I feel that by contributing to Nomadwiki, I am ultimately and indirectly contributing to the Trustroots project. While itsnot like the Facebook-NSA connection :) IMO, it will have to be made very clear to contributors at some point that Nomadwik/ Hitchwiki /trashwiki are all part of the trustroots project. [[User:Subaculture\|Subaculture]]

			:::: It may not be very clear or even intended but at this point you're contributing to my personal business when you edit Nomadwiki and Trashwiki, a bit like HC and its owner, except that I'm not like the owner of HC and that NW/TR are not like HC ;) And moving the projects under the umbrella of Trustroots Foundation is clearly a huge improvement, 1. for me personally 2. for contributors 3. for readers 4. for longevity. With Hitchwiki it's not that clear, as we said it's part of a German hitching organization, but this has never been made very official, and in practice there is also not a lot of clarity about who does what. By moving HW to TR Foundation this will hopefully be better and clearer.
			:::: I also want to stipulate that A. I want to reduce bureaucracy to the minimum B. keep the respective communities in charge of what's happening with the project (in this order). [[User:Guaka\|Guaka]] ([[User talk:Guaka\|talk]]) 13:22, 24 July 2015 (CEST)


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Guaka at 00:11, 22 July 2015

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	::Ideally I'd like to also be able to add deeplinks to ''all'' non profit open source hospex, so also to BeWelcome and WarmShowers. A bit like [[:hitch:France]]. Unfortunately BW doesn't have an easy way to do this, you need to create the links manually. With WS I don't even know if there is such a possibility. Created https://github.com/warmshowers/Warmshowers.org/issues/620 and https://github.com/BeWelcome/rox/issues/6 for this.		::Ideally I'd like to also be able to add deeplinks to ''all'' non profit open source hospex, so also to BeWelcome and WarmShowers. A bit like [[:hitch:France]]. Unfortunately BW doesn't have an easy way to do this, you need to create the links manually. With WS I don't even know if there is such a possibility. Created https://github.com/warmshowers/Warmshowers.org/issues/620 and https://github.com/BeWelcome/rox/issues/6 for this.
	::If we had links like this would this alleviate your concerns? Until automation is technically possibly, would you be willing to create the links manually? [[User:Guaka\|Guaka]] ([[User talk:Guaka\|talk]]) 01:57, 22 July 2015 (CEST)		::If we had links like this would this alleviate your concerns? Until automation is technically possibly, would you be willing to create the links manually? [[User:Guaka\|Guaka]] ([[User talk:Guaka\|talk]]) 01:57, 22 July 2015 (CEST)
	(BTW, use <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> for signing, to add a date.)		<small>(BTW, use <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> for signing, to add a date.)</small>

			:::Quickly added some functionality for BeWelcome. See [[Paris]]. Unfortunately no clear way to do this for WS (no landing pages).
			:::I think deeplinking to a location is particularly, I don't think a linking to BW/WS front pages as a fallback is very useful.
			:::Happy Subaculture sent me an email about this BTW. And it's good it's discussed and I'm sure we can work something out, possibly even improve WS and BW in the process :) [[User:Guaka\|Guaka]] ([[User talk:Guaka\|talk]]) 02:11, 22 July 2015 (CEST)

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Guaka: added ''(on Amsterdam)'' for convenience

2015-07-21T23:59:01Z

added ''(on Amsterdam)'' for convenience

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	On all place sections, there is cross-promotion of Trustroots. For example, Amsterdam http://nomadwiki.org/en/Amsterdam, Under accommodation sub- heading - there is an automatic link that cant be edited that says:		On all place sections, there is cross-promotion of Trustroots. For example, Amsterdam http://nomadwiki.org/en/Amsterdam, Under accommodation sub- heading - there is an automatic link that cant be edited that says:

	Meet fellow travellers on Trustroots"" - https://www.trustroots.org/#!/search?location=Amsterdam		Meet fellow travellers on Trustroots"" - https://www.trustroots.org/#!/search?location=Amsterdam ''(on [[Amsterdam]])''

Guaka: (BTW, use ~~~~ for signing, to add a date.)

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(BTW, use <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> for signing, to add a date.)

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	::Ideally I'd like to also be able to add deeplinks to ''all'' non profit open source hospex, so also to BeWelcome and WarmShowers. A bit like [[:hitch:France]]. Unfortunately BW doesn't have an easy way to do this, you need to create the links manually. With WS I don't even know if there is such a possibility. Created https://github.com/warmshowers/Warmshowers.org/issues/620 and https://github.com/BeWelcome/rox/issues/6 for this.		::Ideally I'd like to also be able to add deeplinks to ''all'' non profit open source hospex, so also to BeWelcome and WarmShowers. A bit like [[:hitch:France]]. Unfortunately BW doesn't have an easy way to do this, you need to create the links manually. With WS I don't even know if there is such a possibility. Created https://github.com/warmshowers/Warmshowers.org/issues/620 and https://github.com/BeWelcome/rox/issues/6 for this.
	::If we had links like this would this alleviate your concerns? Until automation is technically possibly, would you be willing to create the links manually? [[User:Guaka\|Guaka]] ([[User talk:Guaka\|talk]]) 01:57, 22 July 2015 (CEST)		::If we had links like this would this alleviate your concerns? Until automation is technically possibly, would you be willing to create the links manually? [[User:Guaka\|Guaka]] ([[User talk:Guaka\|talk]]) 01:57, 22 July 2015 (CEST)
			(BTW, use <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> for signing, to add a date.)


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